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	<title>Leon J. Podles  :: DIALOGUE</title>
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		<title>Enlightened European Attitudes</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some Americans praise the more sophisticated European attitude to sexuality. The fuss about the Palin pregnancy, or about Clinton’s affairs, would be unimaginable in Europe. 
The Catholic Church hierarchy in the United States is heavily influenced by Europe: rising stars among the priesthood were educated at the North American College or at other European seminaries [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Some Americans praise the more sophisticated European attitude to sexuality. The fuss about the Palin pregnancy, or about Clinton’s affairs, would be unimaginable in Europe. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">The Catholic Church hierarchy in the United States is heavily influenced by Europe: rising stars among the priesthood were educated at the North American College or at other European seminaries to pick up the attitudes of Romanita. They may also have picked up other European attitudes, which may explain why they let sexually abusive priests continue to abuse children for decades.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">The Spanish newspaper<a title="http://www.abc.es/20080903/nacional-sociedad/detienen-abuso-pederasta-multirreincidente-200809031318.html" href="http://"> ABC</a> has a story about </span><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #373737; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: ES; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';" lang="ES">Marcelino Fernández Arnaiz. Three days after getting out of prison, he was suspected of immediately abusing a six year old girl. It was not his first time in prison: he had previoudly been jailed for sexual abuse in 1980, 1983, 1986, 1990, 1999, 2000, 2002<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>and 2003. Every time he got out, he reoffended. Spain has become, like the Catholic Church, a forgiving community for pederasts where everyone gets a second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth…chance.</span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span></p>
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		<title>Papal Words But No Papal Deeds</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pope said the right words in Australia: 
 

&#8220;Dear friends, may this celebration, in the presence of the Successor of Peter, be a moment of rededication and renewal for the whole Church in Australia!
&#8220;Here I would like to pause to acknowledge the shame which we have all felt as a result of the sexual abuse of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">The Pope said the <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSL1868657420080719">right words</a> in Australia:</span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #362d24; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;Dear friends, may this celebration, in the presence of the Successor of Peter, be a moment of rededication and renewal for the whole Church in Australia!</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #362d24; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;Here I would like to pause to acknowledge the shame which we have all felt as a result of the sexual abuse of minors by some clergy and religious in this country. Indeed, I am deeply sorry for the pain and suffering the victims have endured and I assure them that as their pastor I too share in their suffering.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #362d24; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;These misdeeds, which constitute so grave a betrayal of trust, deserve unequivocal condemnation. They have caused great pain and have damaged the Church&#8217;s witness. I ask all of you to support and assist your bishops, and to work together with them in combating this evil. Victims should receive compassion and care, and those responsible for these evils must be brought to justice. It is an urgent priority to promote a safer and more wholesome environment, especially for young people.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #362d24; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;In these days marked by the celebration of World Youth Day, we are reminded of how precious a treasure has been entrusted to us in our young people, and how great a part of the Church&#8217;s mission in this country has been dedicated to their education and care.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #362d24; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;As the Church in Australia continues, in the spirit of the Gospel, to address effectively this serious pastoral challenge, I join you in praying that this time of purification will bring about healing, reconciliation and ever greater fidelity to the moral demands of the Gospel.&#8221;</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">I would feel better about this is these words had not been added at the last minute. According to <a href="http://ncrcafe.org/node/2010">John Allen</a>, “<span style="color: #000000;">The pope&#8217;s direct apology was a last-minute addition to his prepared text.”</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">There is still no indication that bishops will suffer any consequences if they choose to tolerate abuse and to make hard-hearted remarks about victims (see below).</span></span></p>
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		<title>Our Bishops - Who Will Take Away Their Hearts of Stone?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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Bishop Fisher, the youthful bishop who is the organizer of World Youth Day, has demonstrated by his remarks what bishops really think. We learn from this article and this article  in The Age:
The bishop organising World Youth Day, Anthony Fisher, made the remarks in response to questions about two Melbourne women who were repeatedly raped [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Bishop Fisher, the youthful bishop who is the organizer of World Youth Day, has demonstrated by his remarks what bishops really think. We learn from <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/outrage-over-bishops-abuse-remarks-20080716-3gcr.html">this article </a>and <a href="http://news.theage.com.au/national/pope-apology-on-sex-abuse-no-certainty-20080716-3g8b.html">this article</a>  in <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Age</em>:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The bishop organising World Youth Day, Anthony Fisher, made the remarks in response to questions about two Melbourne women who were repeatedly raped by priest Kevin O&#8217;Donnell when they were pupils at Sacred Heart Primary School in Oakleigh from 1988 to 1993.</span></p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Abuse by priests has traumatic and sometimes fatal consequences:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Emma Foster committed suicide this year, aged 26, after a long battle with drug addiction, while Katherine drank heavily before being left disabled when hit by a drunk driver in 1999.</span></p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">But such trivialities do not deter the relentlessly upbeat Bishop Fisher:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The case was detailed on ABC&#8217;s <em>Lateline</em> on Tuesday, but Bishop Fisher told the World Youth Day daily media briefing that he had not seen the program. &#8220;Happily, I think most of Australia was enjoying, delighting in, the beauty and goodness of these young people … rather than dwelling crankily, as a few people are doing, on old wounds,&#8221; he said.</span></p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">I had hoped that perhaps that Pope Benedict has a human heart. But perhaps not:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">The head of the Vatican&#8217;s press office has moved to pour cold water on expectations the Pope will offer an apology for clergy sex abuse while in Australia.</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Reverend Federico Lombardi said he believed Pope Benedict XVI had not given a commitment to apologise to victims of abuse at the hands of Catholic priests, or to their families.</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Any reference to the abuse issue by the Pope may also come in the form of a &#8220;statement&#8221; only, Rev Lombardi said.</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;There is a problem understanding the meaning of apology,&#8221; he told reporters, through an interpreter, in Sydney.</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;I do not recall that he (the pontiff) declared that he would make an apology, but I do not know, perhaps I did not understand properly.</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">&#8220;So, I would suggest that you keep following what the Holy Father says. If the apology happens, all the better. But I would not anticipate that the Holy Father would give an apology.&#8221;</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 10.15pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Such are our shepherds.</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Lying Bishops and Tangled Webs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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As a young man in Australia Anthony Jones was forcibly molested by the Rev Terence Goodall. Jones made a formal complaint to the church, which ordered an investigation. Australian Lateline reports

 


While the report says that Father Goodall raised the issue of an element of consent, the investigator recommended that Anthony Jones&#8217; allegations be sustained without [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">As a young man in Australia Anthony Jones was forcibly molested by the Rev Terence Goodall. Jones made a formal complaint to the church, which ordered an investigation. Australian<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2297016.htm"> Lateline </a>reports</span></p>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">While the report says that Father Goodall raised the issue of an element of consent, the investigator recommended that Anthony Jones&#8217; allegations be sustained without qualification. The report, as well as a number of other documents, was referred upwards to the desk of Archbishop George Pell. And it was the Archbishop who would eventually respond to Anthony Jones about the outcome.</span></div>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">But the letter George Pell wrote to Anthony Jones differed markedly from the investigation&#8217;s findings.</p>
<p>The Archbishop wrote: &#8220;After examining all of the material, Mr Murray provided me with a report, and he has recommended that the allegations of inappropriate behaviour against you be found to be substantiated. However, as no other complaint of attempted sexual assault has been received against Father Goodall and he categorically denies the accusation, Mr Murray was of the opinion that the complaint of attempted aggravated sexual assault cannot be considered to have been substantiated.<span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">But Pell was lying; on the same day he wrote and signed another letter:</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">But what the Archbishop wrote was not true. On the same day George Pell signed a letter to another man who had claimed that when he was just 10 or 11 years old he&#8217;d been attacked by Father Goodall. In a letter to that victim, which was put into evidence in the District Court in 2006, George Pell accepted his complaint. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">LETTER FROM GEORGE PELL TO ABUSE VICTIM: After examining all of the material, Mr Murray provided me with a report in which he recommended that the complaints of inappropriate behaviour with altar boys and of indecent assault of you when a young be found to be substantiated.&#8221;<span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">And now, according to the <a href="http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=28&amp;ContentID=83403">West Australian</a>, Pell is compounding the lie:</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 11.25pt 0in;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">But Cardinal Pell, in response to the Lateline program, denied he had misled Mr Jones.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 11.25pt 0in;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">&#8220;The letter to Mr Jones was badly worded and a mistake - an attempt to inform him there was no other allegation of rape,&#8221; Cardinal Pell said in a statement.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 11.25pt 0in;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">&#8220;However, I signed both letters of February 2003 mentioned in the ABC&#8217;s Lateline program, and any fault in the drafting was mine.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 11.25pt 0in;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">&#8220;In a subsequent letter soon after the February 2003 letter, I expressed my sorrow at what Mr Jones had suffered and offered to meet him.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 11.25pt 0in;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">&#8220;There was no attempt to mislead him. I apologise for the confusion caused to Mr Jones.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Just the thing to set the tone for World Youth Day. Pope Benedict has apologized for priest who abuse; when will he apologize for and remove bishops who lie?</span></p>
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		<title>The Death of the Wicked</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Rod Dreher has a post apologizing for his delight in the prompt death of the wicked.
 
I have been watching a DVD of the interrogation of Rev. Ryan Erickson, who murdered two men in cold blood to cover up his sexual abuse. The detectives cornered him in lies, and he knew the game was up. Shortly [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Rod Dreher has a <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/07/blog-in-haste-repent-at-leisur.html">post </a>apologizing for his delight in the prompt death of the wicked.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">I have been watching a DVD of the interrogation of Rev. Ryan Erickson, who murdered two men in cold blood to cover up his sexual abuse. The detectives cornered him in lies, and he knew the game was up. Shortly after that, at the end of 2004 he committed suicide rather than face humiliation, jail, and what happens to young homosexuals in jail.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">I felt some pity for the SOB. Our response when we see a person or even an animal cornered and about to be killed is often pity, even if we know the death is necessary.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">This basically good human response creates problems at murder trials. The jury and the public see the accused badgered and hunted; they tend to forget the absent murder victim.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Earthly justice is necessary and even desired by God – who has given the civil power the sword for a reason. But somehow we hope, after all the demands of justice are satisfied, that the last word will be spoken by mercy.</span></span></p>
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		<title>Jesuits at it again</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kreuz.net reports that the Jesuits (who else) want to host a homosexual group at the World Youth Day in Australia; the organizers of WYD are not enthusiastic.
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		<title>Hugo Chavez as Henry VIII</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt that this will go anywhere, but it should provide some entertainment for a while.
 
The Miami Herald reports:
 

A church modeled in part after one in Miami but with a &#8221;revolutionary&#8221; spirit that praises Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez is now at the center of a religious and social controversy in Venezuela.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">I doubt that this will go anywhere, but it should provide some entertainment for a while.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The <a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/587067.html">Miami Herald </a>reports:</span></p>
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<p style="background: white;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">A church modeled in part after one in Miami but with a &#8221;revolutionary&#8221; spirit that praises Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez is now at the center of a religious and social controversy in Venezuela.</span></span></span></p>
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<p style="background: white;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Although it has adopted many of the symbols and rites of Roman Catholicism, the new Reform Catholic Venezuelan Church departs from traditional belief in some key ways.</span></span></span></p>
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<p style="background: white;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">For example, reformists consider that &#8221;homosexuality and bisexuality are not sins in and of themselves.&#8221; Divorce is allowed and priests do not take vows of chastity.</span></span></span><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The new church uses the language of liberation theology:</span><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">According to its leaders, the reformist church seeks to establish an institution that is &#8220;inclusive, participatory and with a strong Bolivarian spirit that recognizes Jesus Christ as the Lord of History. He is present in the revolutionary process that is occurring in Venezuela.&#8221;</span></span><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">This is not the first time politicians in Venezuela have tried this trick:</span><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN;" lang="EN"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Attempts to establish churches with political motivations are nothing new to Venezuela. In the mid 1940s several government leaders who had declared themselves anti-clerical decided to establish a Catholic Apostolic Church of Venezuela, by forging the ordainment of a bishop.</span></span><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">I wonder how Catholics who agree with the new Church’s agenda will react?</span></span></p>
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		<title>More on Accusations Against Walesa</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ The new book by Slawomir Cenckiewicz and Piotr Gontarczyk that claims Walesa worked for the Communist secret police until 1976.
 
Der Spiegel interviewed Cenckiewicz: 
 

SPIEGEL: This Monday your book &#8220;The Security Service and Lech Walesa&#8221; comes out. It has already sparked an intense debate. In it, you and your co-author Piotr Gontarczyk claim that the hero of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> T</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">he new book by Slawomir Cenckiewicz and Piotr Gontarczyk that claims Walesa worked for the Communist secret police until 1976.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,561414,00.html">Der Spiegel </a>interviewed Cenckiewicz:</span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">SPIEGEL:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> This Monday your book &#8220;The Security Service and Lech Walesa&#8221; comes out. It has already sparked an intense debate. In it, you and your co-author Piotr Gontarczyk claim that the hero of the Polish reform movement collaborated with the secret police in the 1970s. Do you have proof? </span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Cenckiewicz:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> We provide clear evidence in our book including registration cards, notations, notes from the secret police and reports from the so-called informant &#8220;Bolek.&#8221; There&#8217;s positive proof that Lech Walesa was registered with the secret police under that code name between 1970 and 1976.</span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">SPIEGEL: </span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Walesa has emphatically denied that, and says the Bolek file is a forgery. How can you be sure the secret police didn&#8217;t fabricate the documents to paint the union leader in a bad light?</span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Cenckiewicz:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> We know the secret police&#8217;s methods, and the way the archive and registry were run &#8212; that&#8217;s how we know. We&#8217;ve also found evidence from the Bolek file cited in other files.</span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">SPIEGEL:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> Those could also have been forged.</span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Cenckiewicz:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> These files still had their original seals and it could be proven that they hadn&#8217;t been opened since the 1970s. Manipulation is out of the question.</span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">SPIEGEL:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> Assuming for a moment that Walesa was in fact Bolek as you allege, how much damage did he do? </span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Cenckiewicz:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> We describe the fate of people who Bolek informed on. We&#8217;ve come across seven such stories. The rest were destroyed or stolen from the files. But it&#8217;s clear that Bolek informed on more than 20 people who were later harrassed or oppressed.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">As president Walesa sought to sanitize his file:</span></span></p>
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<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">SPIEGEL:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> The other major claim in your book is that Walesa tried to clean out his file when he was president of Poland in the early 1990s. </span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Cenckiewicz:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> For me that&#8217;s the saddest chapter. He was the first freely elected head of state since World War II, but he used his office to remove incriminating secret police files.</span></span></p>
<p style="line-height: 16pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">SPIEGEL:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> Walesa has also strongly denied this accusation. What proof do you have that he did this, or at least ordered it done?</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;">Cenckiewicz:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"> Some of the documents have his signature, a date and the note &#8220;I have borrowed this file.&#8221; Others have the signature of some of his closest co-workers, for example former Interior Minister Andrzej Milczanowski, requesting the documents on his behalf. Walesa endorsed the request. Later it turned out some of the files were returned incomplete. The new, post-Communist secret service took note of that.</span></span></p>
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		<title>Lech Walesa - Communist Informer?</title>
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According to Der Spiegel’s “In the Hell of the Files,” a book in Poland, The Secret Police and Lech Walesa, claims that Walesa, after his first arrest in 1970, agreed, under the code name of Bolek, to inform on his follow workers in Gdansk, and received 13,000 zlotys, about two months pay, for his work.
 
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">According to <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Der Spiegel’s </em><a href="http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/2226/die_hoelle_der_akten.html">“In the Hell of the Files,</a>” a book in Poland, <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Secret Police and Lech Walesa</em>, claims that Walesa, after his first arrest in 1970, agreed, under the code name of Bolek, to inform on his follow workers in Gdansk, and received 13,000 zlotys, about two months pay, for his work.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Walesa, founder of Solidarity and Nobel Prize winner, denies it and says the secret police files are false.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">The national conservative paper <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Rzeczpospolita</em>, which has also reported on the sexual misconduct of Archbishop <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_19_38/ai_84306995">Juliusz Paetz</a>, has printed a preview of the book by <span style="color: #000000;">Slawomir Cenckiewicz und Piotr Gontarczyk of the Institute of National Memeory (IPN).</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">In 1992 the conservative government presented a list of 66 prominent Poles who had cooperated with the Communists, and Walesa was on that list.</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">But the Polish secret police had destroyed many of their files as Communism was falling, and it was impossible to determine what these men had done. Such accusations were used as a weapon to destroy political foes. The lustration or cleansing of Polish society from Communism became a farce.</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">The files were sealed, and liberals such as Adam Michnik want them to be sealed forever.</span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The Institute of National Memory has custody of the remaining files of the secret police, and the new book is based on those files.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;"><a href="http://merecomments.typepad.com/merecomments/2006/11/hungarian_cardi.html">Cardinal Paskai </a>of Hungary betrayed his priests to the Communists; and Paetz is suspected of being a Communist informer in the Vatican.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">Until the generation of Europeans who might have collaborated with the Communists dies off, the suspicions and accusations will be an open wound on the new democratic societies.</span></p>
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		<title>Deadly Medicine: Creating the Master Race</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The National Post reports on this exhibition on eugenics at the Canadian War Museum. The exhibition “reveals how it was not thoughtless right-wing thugs as much as writers and scientists, the intellectual elite, who led the movement.”
 
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It also fails to stress just how much the socialist left initiated and supported the eugenics campaign, not only [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;">The <a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=592291">National Post </a>reports on this exhibition on eugenics at the Canadian War Museum. The exhibition “</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">reveals how it was not thoughtless right-wing thugs as much as writers and scientists, the intellectual elite, who led the movement.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">But</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 22.5pt; line-height: 18pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">It also fails to stress just how much the socialist left initiated and supported the eugenics campaign, not only in Germany but in Britain, the U. S. and the rest of Europe. Playwright George Bernard Shaw, English social democrat leader Sydney Webb and, in Canada, Tommy Douglas were just three influential socialists who called, for example, for the mass sterilization of the handicapped. In his Master&#8217;s thesis The Problems of the Subnormal Family, the now revered Douglas argued that the mentally and even physically disabled should be sterilized and sent to camps so as not to &#8220;infect&#8221; the rest of the population.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 22.5pt; line-height: 18pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">It is deeply significant that few if any of Douglas&#8217;s left-wing comrades in this country or internationally were surprised or offended by his proposals. Indeed the early fascism of 1920s Italy, while unsavoury and dictatorial, had little connection with social engineering and eugenics. The latter German version of fascism was influenced not by ultra conservatism in southern Europe but, as is made clear in the writings of the Nazi ideologues, by the Marxist left.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">In England H. G. Wells proposed forced abortion and the elimination of inferior races.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">South of the Canadian border the left also led the eugenics movement:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 22.5pt; line-height: 18pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">In the United States socialist writer Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and the mother of the abortion movement, called for a radical eugenics approach as early as the first years of the 20th century. She wrote of the need for &#8220;a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring. It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them. Herein lies the key of civilization.&#8221;</span></p>
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