{"id":394,"date":"2011-01-10T07:08:07","date_gmt":"2011-01-10T13:08:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=394"},"modified":"2011-01-10T07:09:00","modified_gmt":"2011-01-10T13:09:00","slug":"who-needs-men-anyway","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/who-needs-men-anyway-394.htm","title":{"rendered":"Who Needs Men Anyway?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Occasionally churchmen (and churchwomen) notice the lack of male involvement in the various Christian churches and try to think of ways of getting men involved, but the more common reaction is seeking to make the church ever more and more a women\u2019s club.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscatholic.org\/church\/2010\/11\/femme-fidele-how-women-who-work-church-keep-faith?page=3%2C1\">U.S. Catholic<\/a> celebrates the feminine triumph in the Church:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">It\u2019s lunchtime at St. Clement Parish in Chicago, and although some of the city\u2019s best restaurants are within walking distance, most of the staff members instead opt for microwaved leftovers and conversation with colleagues around the conference table. The building engineer and associate pastor stop by for a quick bite, but otherwise this makeshift lunchroom is Estrogen Central.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">A large parish of 4,000 mostly middle- and upper-class families, St. Clement boasts 12 full-time, well-educated lay employees. Only two are men.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">St. Clement is a great place to be a woman in the church. The pastor is open and collaborative. Women are visible in leadership and liturgy, and they are accepted and respected by parishioners. Older women mentor the younger ones. And the flexible hours, reasonable salaries, and decent benefits make it possible for women to do the meaningful work they were trained and feel called to do.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: left; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Nor is this a peculiarity of St. Clement\u2019s.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Women virtually run the church in the United States. They make up the majority of parishioners, volunteers, and staff at the parish level, and make up at least half of employees at most diocesan offices. A third of Catholic students pursuing advanced theological degrees are women\u2014and most plan to use their education in service to the church.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">At the parish level even more employees are women:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Parish employees\u2014as many as 80 percent of whom are women.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The triumphant march of women through the Church will be completed (many of the female employees hope) when ordination is opened to women, and the last vestiges of male presence in the Church are swept into the dustbin of history, and the Bride of Christ will be composed almost exclusively of women \u2013 a process that is almost complete in the mainline Protestant churches.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ansi-language: EN;\" lang=\"EN\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">As to the men \u2013 well, there is sports, war, crime, and other diversions \u2013 if the women are lucky. 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