{"id":432,"date":"2011-03-27T09:37:44","date_gmt":"2011-03-27T15:37:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=432"},"modified":"2011-03-27T14:44:50","modified_gmt":"2011-03-27T20:44:50","slug":"the-more-in-changes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/the-more-in-changes-432.htm","title":{"rendered":"The More It Changes&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_IXSpjcXQk4M\/S8y0e_gFO0I\/AAAAAAAAA4M\/lQPmROoBgDY\/s1600\/BeecherTiltonlarge%5B1%5D.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"248\" \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><strong>The Rev. Henry Ward Beecher offering pastoral counsel<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">A freethinker, William Jamieson, in 1871 had much to say about the dangers to the Republic that the Christian clergy represented. More convincing were\u00a0his documented cases in which the clergy was a danger to young American womanhood. A series of scandals at the time led to various comments.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The Chicago <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Times <\/em>editorialized:<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The clergyman, like the physician, has extraordinary facilities for the commission of a certain class of crimes, and those facilities are such as to heap double damnation upon him if he is sufficiently diabolical to make use of them.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">It also noted<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u2026the extreme laxity which has commenced<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>to govern certain denominations in accepting candidates for holy orders, and the mildness with which lesser offenses which invariably lead to greater ones.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">and came out for a zero-tolerance policy.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Ecclesiastical commissions may attempt\u2026to pronounce the charges false or exaggerated, but if there is the slightest proof of such indiscretion it should ever bar the accused from continuing in his sacred office.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Pulpit<\/em> admitted<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">There is no profession, class or avocation, so exposed to or tormented by the devil of sensuality as the ministry. The very sanctity of their office is an occasion of their stumbling. The office is confounded with its occupant the sanctity of the former is made the possession of the latter Now, the office is an invulnerable myth; its occupant is a man of like passions with other men.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Protestant ministers, who could marry, Catholic priests, who can\u2019t; Protestant congregationalist polities, Catholic hierarchical polities \u2013 it seems to make no difference. Sociopaths exploit the lack of realism and the lack of courage in their churches to continue in their careers of crime<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-432\" data-postid=\"432\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-432 themify_builder themify_builder_front\">\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n<!-- \/themify_builder_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Rev. Henry Ward Beecher offering pastoral counsel \u00a0 \u00a0 A freethinker, William Jamieson, in 1871 had much to say about the dangers to the Republic that the Christian clergy represented. More convincing were\u00a0his documented cases in which the clergy was a danger to young American womanhood. 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