{"id":555,"date":"2012-03-04T18:41:32","date_gmt":"2012-03-05T00:41:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=555"},"modified":"2012-03-04T18:55:24","modified_gmt":"2012-03-05T00:55:24","slug":"how-slippery-is-the-slope","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/how-slippery-is-the-slope-555.htm","title":{"rendered":"How Slippery is the Slope?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN\">This is for real:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN\">From <em>The Journal of Medical Ethics<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Law, ethics, and medicine<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN\"><span> <\/span><\/span><strong><span lang=\"EN\">Paper<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span lang=\"EN\">After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span lang=\"EN\">1.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span lang=\"EN\"><a href=\"http:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/search?author1=Alberto+Giubilini&amp;sortspec=date&amp;submit=Submit\"><span>Alberto Giubilini<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span lang=\"EN\">2.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span lang=\"EN\"><a href=\"http:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/search?author1=Francesca+Minerva&amp;sortspec=date&amp;submit=Submit\"><span>Francesca Minerva<\/span><\/a> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN\"><a href=\"http:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2012\/02\/22\/medethics-2011-100411.abstract\"><span>+<\/span><\/a> Author Affiliations<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"aff-1\"><\/a><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span lang=\"EN\">1.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/em><!--[endif]--><em><sup><span lang=\"EN\">1<\/span><\/sup><\/em><em><span lang=\"EN\">Department of Philosophy, University of Milan, Milan, Italy <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"aff-2\"><\/a><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span lang=\"EN\">2.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/em><!--[endif]--><em><sup><span lang=\"EN\">2<\/span><\/sup><\/em><em><span lang=\"EN\">Centre for Human Bioethics, Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"aff-3\"><\/a><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span lang=\"EN\">3.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/em><!--[endif]--><em><sup><span lang=\"EN\">3<\/span><\/sup><\/em><em><span lang=\"EN\">Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics, University of Melbourne, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"aff-4\"><\/a><!--[if !supportLists]--><em><span lang=\"EN\">4.<span> <\/span><\/span><\/em><!--[endif]--><em><sup><span lang=\"EN\">4<\/span><\/sup><\/em><em><span lang=\"EN\">Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics, Oxford University, Oxford, UK <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span lang=\"EN\">Abstract<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN\">Abortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus&#8217; health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call \u2018after-birth abortion\u2019 (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">This, via <a href=\"http:\/\/patrickmadrid.com\/dear-mom\/\">Patrick Madrid<\/a>, is, for\u00a0the\u00a0time being, a projection:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">January 22, 2023<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Dear Mom:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Can you believe it is already the year 2023? I\u2019m still writing \u201922 on everything! It seems like only yesterday that I was sitting in the first grade and celebrating the change to a new century.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I know we really haven\u2019t chatted since Christmas, Mom, and I\u2019m sorry. Anyway, I have some difficult news to share with you and, to be honest, I really didn\u2019t want to call or talk about this face to face.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But before I get to that, let me report that Ted just got a big promotion, and I should be up for a hefty raise this year if I keep putting in all those crazy hours. You know how I work at it. (Yes, we\u2019re still struggling to pay the bills.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Little Timmy\u2019s been okay at kindergarten, although he complains about going. But then, he wasn\u2019t happy about the day-care center either. So what can we do?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">He\u2019s been a real problem, Mom. He\u2019s a good kid, but quite honestly, he\u2019s an unfair burden on us at this time in our lives.Ted and I have talked this through, and we have finally made a choice. Plenty of other families have made the same choice and are really better off today.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Our pastor is supportive of our choice. He pointed out the family is a system, and the demands of one member shouldn\u2019t be allowed to ruin the whole. The pastor told us to be prayerful and to consider all the factors as to what is right to make our family work. He says that even though he probably wouldn\u2019t do it himself, the choice really is ours. He was kind enough to refer us to a children\u2019s clinic near here, so at least that part is easy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Don\u2019t get me wrong, Mom. I\u2019m not an uncaring mother. I do feel sorry for the little guy. I think he heard Ted and me talking about this the other night. I turned and saw him standing at the bottom of the stairs in his PJ\u2019s with his little teddy bear that you gave him under his arm, and his eyes were sort of welled up with tears.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Mom, the way he looked at me just about broke my heart, but I honestly believe this is better for Timmy, too. It\u2019s just not fair to force him to live in a family that can\u2019t give him the time and attention he deserves.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">And please, Mom, don\u2019t give me the kind of grief that grandma gave you over your abortions. It\u2019s the same thing, you know. There\u2019s really no difference.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">We\u2019ve told Timmy he\u2019s just going in for a \u201cvaccination.\u201d Anyway, they say the termination procedure is painless. I guess it\u2019s just as well that you haven\u2019t seen that much of little Timmy lately.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Please give my love to Dad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Your daughter<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wycokck.org\/uploadedImages\/Departments\/Court_Trustee\/Stock%20Photo%20Child%20and%20teddy%20bear.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"287\" height=\"418\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<\/blockquote>\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-555\" data-postid=\"555\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-555 themify_builder themify_builder_front\">\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n<!-- \/themify_builder_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is for real: From The Journal of Medical Ethics Law, ethics, and medicine Paper After-birth abortion: why should the baby live? 1. Alberto Giubilini 2. 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