{"id":122,"date":"2008-12-19T15:06:26","date_gmt":"2008-12-19T21:06:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=122"},"modified":"2008-12-19T15:06:26","modified_gmt":"2008-12-19T21:06:26","slug":"the-vacuum-at-the-top-of-catholicism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/the-vacuum-at-the-top-of-catholicism-122.htm","title":{"rendered":"The Vacuum at the Top of Catholicism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">The Jonathan Livingstone Seagull variety of Catholicism is doing well in the episcopate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">The Vatican-appointed (let is not forget) Bishop Kieran Conry of Arundel and Brighton told the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/features\/f0000353.shtml\">Catholic Herald<\/a>:<\/span><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">You can&#8217;t talk to young people about salvation. What&#8217;s salvation? What does salvation mean? My eternal soul? You can only talk to young people in young people&#8217;s language, really. And if you&#8217;re going to talk to them about salvation, the first thing they will understand is saving the planet. You&#8217;re talking about being saved and they will say: &#8216;What about saving the planet?&#8217; &#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Doesn&#8217;t Jesus talk in black and white terms, as if we might be in danger? &#8220;Shoulder my yoke and learn from me,&#8221; quotes the bishop, &#8220;for I am gentle and humble in heart and you will find rest for your souls. Yes, my yoke is easy and my burden light.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Doesn&#8217;t he also say we should repent, beware of sin &#8211; a stark message? &#8220;Not stark. According to where you look in the Gospel, and again if you go to Matthew 25, the final parable of Jesus, only in Matthew&#8217;s Gospel &#8211; &#8216;When I was hungry, you fed me &#8230; naked and you clothed me &#8230; you visited me in prison.&#8217; That would resonate much more with young people.&#8221;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>He cited approvingly something that Cardinal Hume said &#8211; &#8220;it was always easier to deal with the loony Left than the conservative Right. He said they were always nicer people.&#8221; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">That\u2019s right, no distasteful talk about sin and repentance and salvation. And<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>no sin \u2013 after all, we are a forgiving people, even if the nasty secular courts don\u2019t practice that forgiveness when Catholic priests have been exploring the boundaries of moral freedom with ten-year-old boys.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">And when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith upon the earth \u2013 or among \u201cCatholic\u201d bishops in England.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-122\" data-postid=\"122\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-122 themify_builder themify_builder_front\">\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n<!-- \/themify_builder_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Jonathan Livingstone Seagull variety of Catholicism is doing well in the episcopate. \u00a0 The Vatican-appointed (let is not forget) Bishop Kieran Conry of Arundel and Brighton told the Catholic Herald:\u00a0 You can&#8217;t talk to young people about salvation. 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