{"id":179,"date":"2009-03-30T07:21:11","date_gmt":"2009-03-30T13:21:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=179"},"modified":"2009-03-30T07:21:11","modified_gmt":"2009-03-30T13:21:11","slug":"more-on-the-death-saint","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/more-on-the-death-saint-179.htm","title":{"rendered":"More on the Death Saint"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal<\/w:View> <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves \/> <w:TrackFormatting \/> <w:PunctuationKerning \/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas \/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:DoNotPromoteQF \/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US<\/w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE<\/w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE<\/w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables \/> 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href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2009\/03\/29\/AR2009032901893.html?hpid=sec-religion\">Washington Post<\/a>, agreed with them<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>But the destruction enraged Death Saint church leaders, including archbishop David Romo who in a homily Sunday called on followers across Mexico to hold demonstrations against the demolitions. <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>&#8220;It was both an open act of religious intolerance and an act of arrogance,&#8221; Romo said. &#8220;We are entering a stage of religious and governmental terrorism.&#8221; <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>He called on followers to stage protest marches during Easter week, including a potentially provocative Easter Sunday march to the Basilica of the Virgin of Guadalupe, the country&#8217;s widely-revered Roman Catholic patroness. <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wwrn.org\/article.php?idd=9584&amp;sec=55&amp;con=6\">previous report <\/a>indicated that he said<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color: black;\">&#8220;We are being persecuted,&#8221; said Catholic Bishop David Romo, who has become the black sheep of Mexico&#8217;s Catholic church for leading services to the bejeweled, scythe-wielding Santa Muerte, or Saint Death, in the rough Mexico City neighborhood of Tepito.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color: black;\">However Romo, despite inaccurate news reports, is not a Catholic, but rather a self-styled bishop of a traditionalist church, whose traditionalism seems to include pagan worship (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.speroforum.com\/site\/article.asp?id=1283\">Spero<\/a>):<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Cult spokesman David Romo Guill\u00e9n, who styles himself as a bishop,[of] &#8220;The Mexico-US Tridentine Catholic Church&#8221; or 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