{"id":419,"date":"2011-02-14T13:01:45","date_gmt":"2011-02-14T19:01:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=419"},"modified":"2011-02-14T13:04:53","modified_gmt":"2011-02-14T19:04:53","slug":"the-basic-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/the-basic-questions-419.htm","title":{"rendered":"The Basic Questions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Rick asks the fundamental questions.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">What intrinsic deterrents did the abusers overcome to begin their sordid behaviors? What spiritual blindness did the bishop have to see this a clinical problem? These are the core questions. They are both spiritual. Enforcement both internal and external to the Church are certainly factors, but essentially they are not intrinsic. What happens to a man spiritually that would incline him to take advantage of minors to satisfy his own lusts? If we can answer this we have the most important (but not the only) solution to the problem of clerical sex abuse.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The abusers, as far as I can tell from the documents, range from narcissists to psychopaths. They have no feeling for the pain, sometimes literal, physical pain, they are inflicting on the victims. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>I don\u2019t think that some of the abuser were even believers; they were atheists, who saw the priesthood as an easy life that gave them access to victims and which protected them from prosecution. Those who were not atheists often pickled their brains in alcohol (and more recently, drugs); alcohol does bad things to the judgment center of the brain.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">How did these extreme narcissists and psychopaths and atheists get themselves ordained? There was a gross failure of discernment in the seminary, even when the bishops and seminary officials had plenty of warning signs (read the murder-suicide case of <a href=\"http:\/\/podles.org\/case-studies\/Rev-Ryan-Erickson-Case-Study.htm\">Ryan Erickson<\/a>).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The bishops and the officials in the Vatican also suffered from narcissism and a lack of empathy. In any hierarchy, business or ecclesiastical, those people who are cold-hearted and are willing to step on other people on their way to the top rise to positions of authority. The narcissism becomes a culture, clericalism.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: 140%; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4.8pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;\"><span style=\"line-height: 140%; color: #333333; font-size: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;\">The phenomena are both spiritual and psychological. How to keep narcissists out of positions of authority? I wish there were an easy answer; but conditions in the church, chiefly clericalism, both attracted and enabled narcissists and psychopaths. The case of Maciel is probably one of the most disturbing in the history of the Church. Benedict rightly called <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>the psychopathic Maciel <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>\u201ca false prophet\u201d \u2013 but John Paul praised and enabled him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-419\" data-postid=\"419\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-419 themify_builder themify_builder_front\">\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n<!-- \/themify_builder_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rick asks the fundamental questions. What intrinsic deterrents did the abusers overcome to begin their sordid behaviors? What spiritual blindness did the bishop have to see this a clinical problem? These are the core questions. They are both spiritual. Enforcement both internal and external to the Church are certainly factors, but essentially they are not [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,46,172,488],"tags":[1149,1173,371],"class_list":["post-419","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-clergy-sex-abuse","category-clericalism","category-narcissism","category-psychopathy","tag-narcissism","tag-psychopathy","tag-sex-abuse","has-post-title","has-post-date","has-post-category","has-post-tag","has-post-comment","has-post-author"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/419","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=419"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/419\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=419"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=419"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=419"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}