{"id":632,"date":"2013-06-12T07:54:43","date_gmt":"2013-06-12T13:54:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/?p=632"},"modified":"2013-06-13T12:56:48","modified_gmt":"2013-06-13T18:56:48","slug":"progress-what-crimes-are-committed-in-thy-name","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podles.org\/dialogue\/progress-what-crimes-are-committed-in-thy-name-632.htm","title":{"rendered":"Progress, What Crimes Are Committed in Thy Name!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpFirst\"><a style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theeuropean.de\/juergen-lemke\/7010-paedophilie-im-zeitgeist-der-68er-gruenen-und-heute\">The European <\/a><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">has a long interview (in German) by reporter Sebastian Pfeffer with the psychotherapist J\u00fcrgen Lemke. He brings to light a very recent era which has disappeared down the memory hole. In the generation of the revolutionaries of 1968 and among the Greens pedophilia was almost \u201cfashionable.\u201d<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">Lemke: These groups maintained that \u201cChildren also have the right to sex with adults and desire it.\u201d<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">The pedophiles saw themselves as doing children a favor. The revolutionaries who were not themselves pedophiles wanted to get rid of all taboos and restrictions, and did not want to impose any on pedophiles. Children were the victims of the sexual revolution.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"left\"><span lang=\"DE\">Lemke: <\/span><span lang=\"DE\">Eine Mutter, deren Sohn lange bei mir in Therapie war, war in den Siebzigern darauf stolz, dass ein Lehrer sich in ihren Sohn \u201everliebte\u201c und Sexualit\u00e4t einforderte. \u201eMein Unwohlsein dar\u00fcber\u201c, das sagt sie heute, \u201ehabe ich damals verdr\u00e4ngt, weil ich keine r\u00fcckst\u00e4ndige Mutter sein wollte.\u201c Im Grunde opferte sie den eigenen Sohn f\u00fcr eine Ideologie, die im Namen des Fortschritts das Zusammenleben neu regeln wollte.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">\u201cA mother, whose son was in therapy with me a long time, in the 1970s was proud that a teacher \u2018loved\u2019 her son and called for sex. She now says \u2018At that time I suppressed my discomfort about that because I didn\u2019t want to be an old-fashioned mother.\u2019 Basically she sacrificed her own son for an ideology that in the name of progress desired to order anew the ways of living together.\u201d<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">The Greens offered pedophiles a political home, but progressives in general accepted pedophilia.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span lang=\"DE\">Lemke: <\/span><span lang=\"DE\">So abstrus das heute klingt, aber in allen Schichten der Bev\u00f6lkerung gab es unter Erwachsenen den unausgesprochenen Konsens, Sex zwischen Kindern und Erwachsenen schade einem Kind nicht. Und wenn ein Kind nicht mitmachen wolle, k\u00f6nne es doch Nein sagen.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">\u201eAs odd as it now sounds, but in all levels of the populace there was among adults the unspoken assumption that sex between children and adults did no harm the child. And when the child didn\u2019t want to go along with it, he could always say No.\u201d<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">Pedophiles have a bad rep nowadays, but that was not always the case.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"left\"><span lang=\"DE\">Lemke: <\/span><span lang=\"DE\">Mitte der 90er-Jahre ver\u00f6ffentlichte der renommierte Wissenschaftler Prof. R\u00fcdiger Lautmann ein Buch, in dem er zwischen \u201eguten\u201c und \u201eschlechten\u201c P\u00e4dophilen unterscheidet. Die guten k\u00fcmmern sich, f\u00f6rdern Kinder, insbesondere solche aus sozial schwachen Familien. Die schlechten benutzen sie ausschlie\u00dflich zur Triebbefriedigung. Aus meiner Sicht ein missgl\u00fcckter Versuch, das sich in den Neunzigern wieder negativ einf\u00e4rbende \u00f6ffentliche Bild der P\u00e4dophilen zu korrigieren. P\u00e4dophile beteuern bis heute: \u201eIch habe aus dem Jungen etwas gemacht, bei den Verh\u00e4ltnissen in seiner Herkunftsfamilie h\u00e4tte er sein Leben niemals aus eigener Kraft bew\u00e4ltigt. Ich war immer r\u00fccksichtsvoll. Wollte er keinen Sex, habe ich sein Nein respektiert.\u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">In the mid-1990s the renowned scientist Professor R\u00fcdiger Lautmann published a book, in which he distinguished between \u201egood\u201c and \u201ebad\u201c pedophiles. The good ones are careful, mentor children, especially those from socially weak families. The bad ones use children exclusively for the satisfaction of their own desires. In my opinion this is a misguided attempt to correct what in the 1990s had again become a one-sided negative public image of pedophiles. Even today pedophiles protest \u201cI made something of this lad; because of the conditions in his family of birth he could never have overcome his life by his own power. I was always considerate. If he didn\u2019t want sex, I respected his No.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">Daniel Cohn-Bendit, the Green politician one wrote of his experience as a teacher in the glory days of German leftism:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span> <\/span><span lang=\"DE\">\u201eMein st\u00e4ndiger Flirt mit den Kindern nahm erotische Z\u00fcge an. Es ist mir mehrmals passiert, dass einige Kinder meinen Hosenlatz ge\u00f6ffnet und angefangen haben, mich zu streicheln. Das stellte mich vor Probleme. Aber wenn sie darauf bestanden haben, habe ich sie dennoch gestreichelt.\u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">My constant flirting with the children took an erotic direction. Many times it happened to me, that a child opened my fly and began to stoke me. That gave me a problem. But when they continued, I then also stroked them.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">Cohn-Bendit now denies that this ever happened. He now claims he wrote it as a \u201cprovocation\u201d \u2013 \u00e9crasez les bourgeoisie \u2013 to shock the philistines &#8211; <span><span> <\/span><\/span>in the best progressive fashion.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i3.ytimg.com\/vi\/RVuI7MPyD9w\/hqdefault.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">(&#8220;I wash their bottoms, I tickle them [the children], they tickle me, we canoodle&#8221; (Here is the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RVuI7MPyD9w\"> 1982 Interview<\/a> , mainly in French).<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">His advocacy of sex with children has not hurt Cohn-Bendit&#8217;s career as a Green politician. He got an important honor in 2013:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSx20l5qsMcHN3bIvoy1NJf8mZvj9v1WCQnxJEd-kHnMLCiFm-daw\" alt=\"\" width=\"258\" height=\"196\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">The media long ignored the progressives\u2019 connection with pedophilia; in fact they covered up for them:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"left\"><span lang=\"DE\">Lemke: <\/span><span lang=\"DE\">Die \u201etaz\u201c war lange Sprachrohr der P\u00e4dophilen. Noch 2007, als ich zusammen mit dem Journalisten Manfred Karremann dessen Buch \u201eEs geschieht am helllichten Tag\u201c in der Urania in Berlin vorstellte, z\u00fcndeten P\u00e4dophile eine Stinkbombe, br\u00fcllten uns nieder und sprengten die Veranstaltung. Von den Medien, die ansonsten die Fl\u00f6he husten h\u00f6ren, kam nicht die geringste Reaktion. Noch 2007 wurde P\u00e4dophilie auch in den sogenannten seri\u00f6sen Medien als Kavaliersdelikt behandelt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">TAZ [die Tageszeitung, leading leftist newspaper] was for a longtime the mouthpiece of pedophiles. Even in 2007, when I was with the journalist Manfred Karreman whose book<em>, It Happened in Broad Daylight<\/em>, was published in Urania in Berlin, the pedophiles set off a stink bomb, shouted us down, and disrupted the meeting. Not the slightest reaction came from the media, which could otherwise hear a flea cough. Even in 2007 pedophilia was treated as a mere peccadillo in the so-called serious media.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.taz.de\/hausblog\/files\/2011\/02\/paedotaz.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">TAZ 1973 published this manifesto: &#8220;Pedophilia: A Crime without a Victim.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">Lemke also blames the conservatives. For the Church, <span>Kollegenschutz geht vor Opferschutz, the protection of colleagues had precedence over the protection of children.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span>Pedophilia has become unfashionable because the child-victims of the 1960s and 1970s are now adults and can vote and take legal action.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span> <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">The revelation of widespread abuse by priests has made pedophilia unfashionable, at least for the moment. However in our Brave New World I am sure that the courts and public will soon notice that puberty is occurring earlier and earlier in both boys and girls, and that they are being denied sexual fulfillment by old-fashioned laws. Incest is the latest cause:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUa0VJREUoLWi8-ruSzZvnYJMY5nCZ4l7l78td03BMJF4LCERc\" alt=\"\" width=\"249\" height=\"128\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Green Politican Stroebele will allow incest<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span> <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">Also, I have never gotten a clear answer form those who hold that \u201cconscience\u201d trumps all external laws and traditions of society and the Church. Pedophiles think in their conscience that they are doing the right thing; why shouldn\u2019t we respect their conscience? After all the Catholic Theological Society has maintained that Science (It must be true. It&#8217;s SCIENCE!) has never shown that any sexual behavior (ANY) is intrinsically and always harmful. We are after all in a Brave New World. where anything goes (as long as you think it is OK). So we can all proceed directly with out sexual projects until society becomes more enlightened. That&#8217;s what pedophiles have been saying all along.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">&#8212;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">In reply to Jim:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">I have documented the sexual abuse of children by Catholic clerics in my book Sacrilege. But sometimes it seems that adult-child sex is viewed as wrong only if the adult is a priest. The clergy too were caught up in the sexual revolution, and there seems to have been a major increase in abuse by priests in the 60s and 70s. But many influential people on the left were trying to normalize adult-child sex at that time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle\">\n<div id=\"themify_builder_content-632\" data-postid=\"632\" class=\"themify_builder_content themify_builder_content-632 themify_builder themify_builder_front\">\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n<!-- \/themify_builder_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The European has a long interview (in German) by reporter Sebastian Pfeffer with the psychotherapist J\u00fcrgen Lemke. He brings to light a very recent era which has disappeared down the memory hole. 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