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How Slippery is the Slope?

March 4th, 2012 · 3 Comments

This is for real:

From The Journal of Medical Ethics

Law, ethics, and medicine


After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?

1. Alberto Giubilini

2. Francesca Minerva

+ Author Affiliations

1. 1Department of Philosophy, University of Milan, Milan, Italy

2. 2Centre for Human Bioethics, Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

3. 3Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics, University of Melbourne, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

4. 4Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics, Oxford University, Oxford, UK


Abortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus’ health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.

This, via Patrick Madrid, is, for the time being, a projection:

January 22, 2023

Dear Mom:

Can you believe it is already the year 2023? I’m still writing ’22 on everything! It seems like only yesterday that I was sitting in the first grade and celebrating the change to a new century.

I know we really haven’t chatted since Christmas, Mom, and I’m sorry. Anyway, I have some difficult news to share with you and, to be honest, I really didn’t want to call or talk about this face to face.

But before I get to that, let me report that Ted just got a big promotion, and I should be up for a hefty raise this year if I keep putting in all those crazy hours. You know how I work at it. (Yes, we’re still struggling to pay the bills.)

Little Timmy’s been okay at kindergarten, although he complains about going. But then, he wasn’t happy about the day-care center either. So what can we do?

He’s been a real problem, Mom. He’s a good kid, but quite honestly, he’s an unfair burden on us at this time in our lives.Ted and I have talked this through, and we have finally made a choice. Plenty of other families have made the same choice and are really better off today.

Our pastor is supportive of our choice. He pointed out the family is a system, and the demands of one member shouldn’t be allowed to ruin the whole. The pastor told us to be prayerful and to consider all the factors as to what is right to make our family work. He says that even though he probably wouldn’t do it himself, the choice really is ours. He was kind enough to refer us to a children’s clinic near here, so at least that part is easy.

Don’t get me wrong, Mom. I’m not an uncaring mother. I do feel sorry for the little guy. I think he heard Ted and me talking about this the other night. I turned and saw him standing at the bottom of the stairs in his PJ’s with his little teddy bear that you gave him under his arm, and his eyes were sort of welled up with tears.

Mom, the way he looked at me just about broke my heart, but I honestly believe this is better for Timmy, too. It’s just not fair to force him to live in a family that can’t give him the time and attention he deserves.

And please, Mom, don’t give me the kind of grief that grandma gave you over your abortions. It’s the same thing, you know. There’s really no difference.

We’ve told Timmy he’s just going in for a “vaccination.” Anyway, they say the termination procedure is painless. I guess it’s just as well that you haven’t seen that much of little Timmy lately.

Please give my love to Dad.

Your daughter

Tags: abortion

3 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Mary Henry // Mar 5, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    A recent quote I read says it all concerning the cultural and political systems that govern our world’s failing economy ….
    “Without a complete moral structure within the natural law, nothing will ever be right. It is “unsustainable.” In my view, politics and religion are the two most vile things that I cannot endure any longer.
    Oh, I believe in God, and I believe that God isn’t that stupid to come up with religious and government systems as evil as the ones we have been exposed to.
    Do we continue to write about the truth? I say yes. Telling the truth will always be honored by God. At the very least, a man can at least function with the truth; without it, nothing is going to work. “

  • 2 Janice Fox // Mar 6, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Unfortunately, this could happen if enough people want to happen. Killing of the unwanted can be legalized and carried out by the more educated among us. Just think about the Einsatzgruppen in Eastern Europe.

    My own shock came about thirty years ago when an elder in my church asked me if I believed in abortion. I said not, but she replied that she did because her nieces and nephews never should have been born because they had ruined her sisters marriage. That showed me that promoting abortion was just simply a ploy to get rid of people who stood in the way of something else that was desirable. Here I think that the real reason must have been an inheritance. I have heard that the more abortion we have, the more the crime rate goes down. These things do seem more politically correct than “Lebensraum.”

    Meanwhile our people get more and more rude, uncaring, and impersonal.

  • 3 Adele // Mar 7, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Great post Leon! God bless you. Mary Henry, email me. I lost your address (orare 33 at yahoo dot com) .

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