Leon J. Podles :: DIALOGUE

A Discussion on Faith and Culture

Leon J. Podles  :: DIALOGUE header image 2

Are men or women more irrational?

December 9th, 2012 · 28 Comments

While researching my new book, I came across studies that showed that not only were women more religious than men, they were more superstitious when it came to believing in New Age stuff, mediums, astrology, communicating with the dead, etc. However, men were more likely to believe in UFOs and aliens.

I mentioned this to my wife, and she said that she bet men were more likely to fall for nutty conspiracy theories.

She was right.

The Sidney Morning Herald reported on the research of Kylie Sturgess, who tested 1243 Australians  on a variety of beliefs;

“Women are more likely to be at the ’social’ end of paranormal beliefs,” Sturgess says. “They’re more likely to believe in things like mediums, astrology, psychic healing, and ghosts.


“Men, for instance, are more likely than women to believe in the alien astronaut theories of Erich von Daniken, and more cryptozoological things like the Loch Ness monster.”

Studies have also shown that men are also more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, creationism and the notions of historical revisionists, while women are more likely to believe in telepathy and New Age theories.

I am puzzled; perhaps the sexes are equally irrational. However female goofiness is generally harmless, while conspiracy theories (which always end up blaming the Jews) lead to the gas chambers.

Tags: Women in Church · conspiracy theories · sex differences

28 responses so far ↓

  • 1 TheAltonRoute // Dec 10, 2012 at 10:45 am

    The real conspiracy is a takeover of the world by occultists who see themselves as gods on earth. The old pagan beliefs never went away, unfortunately. Do a search involving terms such as City of London, Freemasonry and occult. The UFO nonsense is designed to detract from the very real pillaging and raping of the world by men who serve Lucifer, not God.

  • 2 Mary // Dec 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Leon,
    Having been in the state of wedded bliss for almost half a century, it has been my pleasure to note the male mindset of “show me” on occasions too numerous to count. It seems that for many conversational topics my own husband wanted me to prove almost everything I stated.Not so with his male friends!
    Either this can be attributed to an engineering background or an instilled cultural bias in males towards females as being foolish or gullable by nature.
    I strongly suspect the latter though, since male bonding seems to also include plenty of jokes about “foolish” women . My own daughters have cemented this thesis in my mind by relating all the rediculous lines men have spewed to them in the courtship rituals. They have come to believe men are for the most part “clueless” about what women really think .
    Surpringly ,over the years, both my husband and a son in law have stated they have “learned” from what I had to say.

    “I am puzzled; perhaps the sexes are equally irrational. However female goofiness is generally harmless, while conspiracy theories (which always end up blaming the Jews) lead to the gas chambers.”

    Having known a German woman who endured Hitler’s rise to power and who came to our home as my mother’s tailor. I recall her speaking about what those times were like in Germany.She said originally Hitler was made fun of when he stood on a box to speak in the beer gardens.But when the men were increasingly losing their jobs they began to gather around to listen providing him with an audience. Hitler blamed the Jewish bankers who were foreclosing on their homes.
    Inflation was rampant and the men were angry.They listened because they wanted someone to blame when they had no employment and could not feed their families.War always seems to be preceded by growing economical hardship for the masses. Is this where we are heading now?
    http://www.trendsresearch.com/SubscriberArea/gerald-celente-whdt-reality-report-november-27-2012

    Recognizing that women have something to offer
    them by way of an inate intuition, observation and education, is a clear sign of maturity in males.

  • 3 Mary // Dec 10, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Alton, I agree with what you state above.

    Leon , Re:”While researching my new book, I came across studies that showed that not only were women more religious than men, they were more superstitious when it came to believing in New Age stuff, mediums, astrology, communicating with the dead, etc. However, men were more likely to believe in UFOs and aliens.”

    Okay let’s see what the rational male Bishops ask of the religious laity in order to save life, marriage, religious liberty in this country which of course the catholic laymen men will jump to do.
    “Bishops urge Catholics to pray
    For life, marriage, religious liberty”
    http://cal-catholic.com/wordpress/2012/12/09/bishops-urge-catholics-to-pray/
    Now read what one female commentator states in reponse and tell me who is more rational when it comes to religion?

    “I may have missed a key point, but I don’t see what the American BISHOPS themselves intend to DO while the laity is praying for life, marriage and family (as they always have done). Are the bishops going to reaffirm publicly the excommunication of public officials and others who by their anti-life actions have already ex-communicated themselves? Are they going to halt classroom sex instruction programs in parochial schools – instruction which is destroying the physical, mental, moral and spiritual welfare of Catholic children and undermining parental authority and the family? When are the bishops going to move against the billion dollar federal domestic and foreign birth control/abortifacient/population control industry funded under Title X of the Public Health Service Act [HHS] and the U.S. Agency for International Development? Are the bishops going to preach regularly from the pulpit against divorce, contraception, abortion, sterilization, eugenic pre-natal diagnosis, IVF and the many anti-life programs associated with IVF including surrogacy pregnancy? When are the bishops going to confront the Homosexual Collective head on and move also against the wide assortment of Pervert Movements the Collective has spawned? So the bishops want to strengthen family life and marriage? Fine! Have Bishop Cordileone call the U.S. C.L. which for more than forty years has been fighting against federal anti-life programs and we and our pro-life colleagues will lay out a strategy against the Anti-Life Movement which has some teeth – at no charge. The Catholic laity is fed up with decades of pricey but worthless USCCB public relations scams. The bishops need to ACT NOW on their own initiative on the critical life issues highlighted above or forever hold their peace.”

  • 4 Mary // Dec 11, 2012 at 12:26 am

    As far as “comspiracy theories ” are concerned I suggest everyone watch the Smithsonian Channels show we saw tonight!
    The real basis for the Bourne Identity scripts were chronicled. Sometimes the truth IS stranger than fiction.
    http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/sn/show.do?episode=135950

    BTW Leon the man behind the horrific CIA experiments on “thousands” of unsuspecting American citizens was a Dr Sidney Gottlieb.After Mengele the surnames of so many involved in diabolical “medical scientific” work tend to lend credance to the cospiracy theorists.We are a bruised society.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Gottlieb

  • 5 Joseph D'Hippolito // Dec 11, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Mary, don’t expect the bishops to do a damn thing. They’re very good at giving orders but not very good (to put it mildly) at exhibiting personal righeousness. They value their power and political access too much to do what you suggest.

    As far as sex education goes, I believe that any sex education program — especially in Christian schools — must teach young teens how to develop the moral, ethical and emotional skills to deal with their budding sexuality and with the opposite sex, especially in a culture that throws sex at them from every direction. That is what’s paramount.

    I remember taking sex education at a public junior high school in the late 1960s. The teacher stressed unequivocably that the course did not give the students the licence to have sex. We discussed human biology regarding sex but we never talked about condoms or birth control.

  • 6 TheAltonRoute // Dec 11, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Mary,

    Remember the nickname of the CIA as the “private army of the Fortune 500″? According to Eustace Mullins, one had to be an alcoholic, a homosexual, a communist or all three to get into the CIA. Our valiant freedom fighters sponsored great projects such as the Congress for Cultural Freedom, drug-running to the inner-cities and flying around child prostitutes. The US is a horrendously corrupt country thanks to the endless shenanigans of the corrupt, occult-obsessed power elite.

  • 7 Mary Ann // Dec 12, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Mary, who from USCL said that great quote? It is wonderful!

  • 8 Mary // Dec 12, 2012 at 10:04 am

    Joseph, Re: sex ed.with morality.
    I recall sex ed in high school. The gymn teacher taught it.We sat in the bleechers while she demonstrated by using a milk bottle to represent the female reproductive organ and a clothespin and marshmallow both of which represented the male. You can get the picture as she demonstrated by trying to insert the marshmallow into
    the bottle neck .Then she dropped the clothespin inside the bottle! Many of the girls like myself were left more puzzeled than when we first sat down for the ’sex ed’ class.

    Sitting a few bleechers above me was a classmate who was in her last trimester of pregnancy. In a loud voice she remarked ,” No wonder she’s an unmarried dike!”
    So needless to say, I am all for anatomically correct biological education along with the need for stressed morality .
    However, I also believe this is the right of the parents and not the state.Who is to say when a child is emotionally and psychologically ready for this information and how it is to be presented?
    By the time my last child was in school the milkbottle,marshmallow and clothespin had been replaced with a plethora of “planned parenthood” agenda materials.

    The devil was always in the details of the curriculum .Parents did not see the additional “educational”resources that were suggested for use to the teachers.Those of us who took the time to research it were shocked by the immorality of said resources.

    I also believe that the Church has failed miserably in this area of education. The credibility of the educator counts, especially for the teen or pre teen . It annoys me that just because the current culture is hypersexualized and some parents have chosen amoral lifestyles in which to raise their children ,that the state has taken my responsibility away from the parent! But that is “public” education in which it is now claimed to be politically incorrect to stress any particular morality.
    I would also include the allegedly “catholic’
    TOB education which has a mixed bag of it’s own problematic presentations. Christopher West’s gaffs were widely televised and criticized by catholics and non catholics alike, if you recall.

    Recently, I have heard a few praises from certain catholics over the handeling of the Legion/RC restructuring by Vatican prelates.They said that they do not want to see the structure of the church Heirarchy damaged.
    It occurred to me that if an Oncological surgeon spotted an obvious melanoma would he want to remove it all and heal the body or ,would he choose to replace only the visible portion on the surface and allow the cancer to grow beneath and metasticize throughout the body then accept the praise and acclaim that he cured the body?

    Alton,
    I agree but would add the old catholic proverb ,”As the Church goes ,so goes the world.”
    NOT the other way around as some Bishops would have us believe about the culture of the sixties affecting the morals of the clergy.
    Sin and especially the avoidance of it’s near occasion was lost in catechetical instruction during that time.I remember because my formitive years of Catholic education occurred right in the middle of the sudden shift.It WAS sudden ,as sudden as the clothespin being dropped into the milk bottle! We were all left wondering…..”What the heck just happened here?”
    It seems to me ,especially after reading of Maciel’s trips to Thailand with several other priests and the Boys Town connections as documented by Senator DeCamp, that your last statement applies to the church as well as to our country.
    There is no morality in politics and for all intents and purposes, aside from PR verbage, it appears lacking amongst the heirarchy also.
    I am not a teenager anymore but I still want my moral religious educator to have credibility Perhaps that is an irrational female way of thinking ?

  • 9 Mary // Dec 12, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Just an FYI concerning ‘conspiracy theories” .
    The owner of the site where the article below appeared invented the game “Scruples’ and is a Jewish ( non practicing) Canadian College Porfessor.
    I just read this article and took note of a comment by one Tony Blizzard below it. Seems he has many of the same opinions as I have regarding the educational system. I thought his little historical account of our public educational system was of interest.
    http://www.henrymakow.com/they-took-our-women.html

    Maybe I have already said this on this site but I believe it is it is worth repeating
    Years ago we had a ninety some yr old Dutch bi ritual Catholic priest come and say our Liturgy as a fill in . He told us he was returning to his homeland to “die”.
    He gave a lengthy homily about our society telling us how he watched the decline of our culture and education. Born into an Agrarian society he said children learned their values from the parents and the Church. Then along came the Industrial Revolution yet, young men still learned from adult male role models by learning a trade as an apprentice. Girls stayed at home and learned to be good wives and mothers. Now, he said it seemed to him we have lost all the solid formation for a society based on good moral family life and are experiencing a prolonged adolescents as a result. Something even the last Pope acknowledged as a phenomena .
    The elderly priest stated this was ,”…the result of the educational system where the youth learns it values from other youth who are just as stupid as they are. They then take these values to the marketplace in their chosen career be it politics, business, academia or medicine.”

  • 10 TheAltonRoute // Dec 12, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    My own theory is that Western Christianity combined with a moral form of capitalism (nothing close to the barbaric version we have today) had the capacity to conquer the world for the better of mankind…perhaps nation-states converted to Christianity and linked to each other by mutually beneficial trade patterns. This progress of mankind has been sidetracked by the recurring appearance of barbaric paganism in the form of Cabbala, the Talmud, etc. According to Michael Hoffman, Cabbala infiltrated the Church during the Renaissance and has worked its way inside the Church for centuries. This evil reared its head publicly at Vatican II. Similar forces have been at work among the Protestants as well. I’m starting to believe Hoffman when he writes that one of the first instances of change in the Church was the overturning of the teaching against usury. Lucifer reigns at the top of world finance and is behind relentless depressions and panics in order to increase money and monopoly power over world economies. The money power and the Church are intertwined. Look at Legatus, the Legionaries and Opus Dei. The Church and the powerful always have been close but now we have to question what groups such as Opus Dei really believe. It’s one thing to be wealthy and try to follow God’s laws but another to believe there is one set of laws for the power elite and another for the masses. That’s paganism and I believe that’s what we’re seeing the re-emergence of in today’s world.

  • 11 TheAltonRoute // Dec 12, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Mary,

    Some of Henry Makow’s material is interesting and probably accurate, although I question why he’s so obsessed with the Masons. Is Barack Obama really a Mason? Do I really care? The infiltration of Cabbalism is certainly not limited to the Masonic lodges. I’m more afraid of Opus Dei than the local Masonic lodge to be honest.

  • 12 Mary // Dec 12, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Mary Ann,
    You can scroll down and read the comments after the article linked below.
    A long time dear friend and the most rational woman I have ever known.

    http://cal-catholic.com/wordpress/2012/12/09/bishops-urge-catholics-to-pray/

  • 13 Mary // Dec 13, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    One man’s opinion ?
    Rational or Irrational ?
    Conspiracy Theory or facts?
    He has been making a nice living off of these reports.

    “Doesn’t anyone realize what is happening to this country? To the world?”To the Church and morality?.It is all Politics.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsB0lA-mXEU&feature=youtu.be

  • 14 reid // Dec 15, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Mary, could you tell me where you have read about maciel’s trips to Thailand with other priests? Is there evidence? Your Church hierarchy/cancer surgeon analogy hits the bull’s eye.

  • 15 Mary Ann // Dec 15, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    @Mary: I figured it was Randy Engel! Sounded just like her. Good for her.

  • 16 TheAltonRoute // Dec 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    The conspiracies of the old families of finance and royalty are how the world really works. Ideology is pretty much fake. Unfortunately the oligarchs pretty much have abandoned Christianity and are trashing the world. I would imagine that halfway decent oligarchs have been marginalized or eliminated.

    I like the Global Research website as well, especially the articles by Michel Chossudovsky, F. William Engdahl and James Tracy.

  • 17 Mary // Dec 17, 2012 at 1:58 am

    Alton, I appreciate your thoughts above and find them very interesting.
    “Some of Henry Makow’s material is interesting and probably accurate, although I question why he’s so obsessed with the Masons.”
    IMHO most likely because he refers to the Protocols and sees correlation between that book, which emerged over a hundred years ago, and the historical accuracy of it’s plan of social engineering being implemented in the modern world. He also views it as being intrinsically tied to Masonry. “…but now we have to question what groups such as Opus Dei really believe.”
    Good question ,especially while following the more recent dismissal of the Opus Dei head of the Vatican bank, the IOR. The more recent police raid of Gotti Tedeschi’s home allegedly yoelded files which he kept because he feared for his life! Interesting also is that the head of the KoC who fired Tedeschi ,Carl Anderson, is himself also a member of Opus Dei.
    Apparently THEY are not lacking in having their own “conspiracy theorists” too.
    ” Gotti Tedeschi’s lawyer Palazzo denied it. In the correspondence with some Curial officials, Gotti Tedeschi denounced a «plot» against him. Tedeschi described it as a «Judaic-Masonic » plot . Tedeschi reportedly thought that : Marco Simeon (33 years old, foreign relations account manager and deputy to the relationship with the institutions of the Italian state television, Rai, and ad interim director of Rai Vaticano,which covers the Holy See) and the lawyer Michele Briamonte (from the office of Franzo Grande Stevens) were part of this plot.”
    http://www.mondayvatican.com/holy-see/too-much-talking-about-gotti-tedeschi-while-the-holy-see-works-for-financial-transparency

  • 18 Father Michael Koenig // Dec 17, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Frederica Mattews-Green wrote a very good article everyone reading this blog should find interesting. It’s called “Why Orthodox Men Love Church” on a site called Pravaslavis -Ru.

  • 19 Mary // Dec 17, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Reid , The information was posted on a South American blog site ( Chilean if I recall correctly )
    Also, mentioned on the website below
    http://www.life-after-rc.com/2010/04/the-maciel-lens.html
    “If this from a commenter “pjhowes” is true it could be the next nail in the LC/RC coffin… “I have a small factory in Thailand.Last year when I found out that Marciel was a frequent visitor I was able to ascertain via the Thai police his movements in and out of Thailand.He had a penchant for groups of 7 and 8 year olds.He entered not alone but in the company of others.”

  • 20 Mary // Dec 17, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Reid, the full posting can be read here and states it was originally posted on reporter Damian Thompson’s article’s comment site .
    http://jp2army.blogspot.com/2011/05/vatican-swiss-banks-25-billion-owned-by.html

  • 21 Mary // Dec 17, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Reid, Here is the comment quote in full. Also posted somewhere on an exLegion blog in S America
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100032982/a-vast-sex-and-money-scandal-threatens-the-vatican-but-once-again-ratzinger-emerges-as-the-campaigner-against-filth/#disqus_thread

  • 22 Mary // Dec 17, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Leon ,apologies again for my over abundance of posts but in light of the horror in Connecticut we have been inundated by the experts commenting on what mental illness caused the shooter to snap and slaughter innocent children.
    Today A featured Psychologist stated that lack of empathy towards children is a significant symptom of mental illness. He stated,”In fact, the area of the frontal cortex where empathy resides has been discovered to be lacking through autopsies done on these kind of individuals.”
    I wondered how this reflects on clerics who are/were aware of crimes against innocent children and kept quiet about their abuse or transferred them on to abuse again?
    It seems to me the narcissism and lack of empathy are related .Could you comment?

  • 23 TheAltonRoute // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Mary,

    I think there is a lot of overlap at the top among Freemasons, Knights of Malta, Knights of the Holy Sepulchre, Opus Dei, Knights of Columbus, Knights Templar, etc. Whatever the fraternity or society, the upper echelons seem to be immersed in the occult, Cabbala, etc. No doubt there are bridges between outwardly opposing groups such as Freemasonry and the Church, the gay rights movement and the Church and so forth. How much of the public fight involving the Church and abortion, for example, is really just for show? I have an image in my mind of the supposedly pro-life millionaires of Legatus, Opus Dei and some traditionalist societies secretly pushing abortion, homosexuality and the occult. I think the left and right pillars of the Church are steadily moving toward a synthesis of some sort of ultimate heresy. Perhaps many are leaving the Church because at a subconscious level they know that the institutional Church is not what it seems to be.

  • 24 TheAltonRoute // Dec 18, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Mary,

    No doubt in my mind that Maciel would visit Thailand for child prostitutes. Who knows? Maybe he was associated with the Dutroux fiasco in Belgium and Franklin in Nebraska? We have to remember that the Vatican is a center of international crime, set up by Bernardino Nogara after the signing of the Lateran Treaty in 1929. One “Illuminati defector” interviewed by Henry Makow spoke of satantic sex parties at the Vatican. Whatever the status of the Illuminati, I believe all this is going on at the Vatican. This is the ugliness that propaganda fronts such as Catholic Answers were established to cover up.

  • 25 Father Michael Koenig // Dec 18, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    The author of the article on Eastern Orthodox men and why they like church is Frederica Mathewes-Green. I got the spelling wrong. The site the article is on is pravislavis.ru.

    Mary, you would definitely be interested and are probably already familiar with some of this author’s work.

    AltonRoute, have you read any Malachi Martin? He wrote and spoke of a satanic cabal that infiltrated the Vatican.

  • 26 Mary // Dec 19, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Thankyou Father,
    I knew MM personally.We corresponded and he occaionally called.
    Have been wondering though about his last book. He told me on the telephone it was ,” A survival guide of sorts for Catholics living in the new millenium.” He told me he knew he would never live to see that time himself .
    In our last conversation he had asked for a meeting to discuss the very groups Alton mentions as I knew many members.He also told me he had sent his book to the publisher already the previous December and it was completed. I declined the meeting for personal reasons and about a year afterward he died. I was quite surprised to read Fr Fiore’s claim the book had never been completed and he was still in the process of editing it for him! I guess we will never know. Traditional sites have been disparaging his motivations since his death.
    I have told friends who did not like him much for his role in Vatican Two as Cardinal Bea’s aide thinking him a “crypto Jew” and a womanizer that when I met him I knew him as an elderly man who genuinely displayed empathetic emotion for Catholic families with young children who were trying to raise them in the Catholic Faith in these confused times .
    Thanks for the referenced article Fr, it was excellent I have already read it.

  • 27 TheAltonRoute // Dec 22, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Martin very well may have been a womanizer and a strong liberal but people do change over time. That’s something that some of the trads don’t understand. Many young priests and religious became very progressive in the 1950s and 1960s because they were following the establishment line. The real relbels, who had the nerve to slam the pope/Vatican over the trashing of the old Mass and other issues, were ruthlessly crushed. I’d love to find other examples of MM. The priests I know who were ordained in the 1960s still think the way they did when they were young.

  • 28 Mary // Dec 30, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Alton ,
    Thanyou for acknowledgong that I was perhaps correct in my assessment of the elderly Malachi Martin. People do make mistakes which they later regret as did St Peter. I have found though, that many traditionalists like the neo conservatives are blind to the realities happening right in front of their faces .
    I believe that persons who are so convinced that Latin is superior and the only acceptable language of the Church will have a sad awakening in the afterlife. Even the Apostles were an afront to Jesus when they questioned His conversing with the Samaritan woman. Afterall , she did recognize that she was speaking with God long before Peter was inspired by the Holy Ghost to recognize Him as such!
    Just think of it.The Samaritan woman whom Jesus told had five husbands.Yet, “Blessed are the pure of heart ,for they shall see God.
    A “pure heart” is only read by Christ.We have intuition and mine told me that Fr Martin was truly appalled by the corruption he encountered pre and post Vatican Two and that is why he exited the Jesuits and requested laiciation.
    I watched his eyes closely when he gazed at several couples with children and an elderly traditional nun with her habit in tatters held together with safety pins, who remained in her now liberal convent and was being literally persecuted by those who became her new “progressive” Superiors.
    His eyes were filled with compassion .A womanizer? Maybe in his youth , but thankyou very much he was more a priest than those who entered the seminary to be with the boys!

    Corruption? LOL, one only needs to speak with sincere once idealist priests who no longer find it convenient to cover their eyes ,mouths and ears or to try to justify to themselves that they are there abetting the charade for the good of the Church.
    http://pinellas.legalexaminer.com/miscellaneous/vaticans-new-sex-abuse-prosecutor-gets-no-confidence-vote-.aspx?googleid=306164

Leave a Comment